请听／看以下两个电台节目：
Here's the audio of Vic Derman on CFAX today (Aug 15) with Frank Stanford to talk about the way the vote was setup so that the whole board couldn't vote on his motion:
http://stopabadplan.ca/media/130815_CFAX_Vic_Derman.m4a
http://stopabadplan.ca/media/130815_CFAX_Richard_Atwell.m4a 
